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dieboy
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-22-2012

Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

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Are there any wireless N routers you folks sell that is *known* to work with fiber optic internet?

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sabretooth
Posts: 5,314
Registered: ‎11-11-2008

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

Sure all of them will.  Most Fiber Optic lines are only to your street and then it's copper from there.  There are no direct fiber ISPs to your house that I know of.

monsterboi19
Posts: 27
Registered: ‎04-27-2012

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

Some routers are not compatible with fiber optic connection. You might need to consult your ISP before buying any router...some of the linksys routers wrt120N and higher works but still depends on your ISP.



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somms
Posts: 129
Registered: ‎03-20-2008

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

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sabretooth wrote:

Sure all of them will.  Most Fiber Optic lines are only to your street and then it's copper from there.  There are no direct fiber ISPs to your house that I know of.



http://www.xmission.com/utopia

 

I've got an install date to get fiber optic cable installed into my house next month w/Utopia.  Went and upgraded to ASUS RT-N66u (running Shibby's latest tomato firmware of course!) in preperation and can't wait to cut the Comcast cord!:smileywink:



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dieboy
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-22-2012

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

"Sure all of them will" is very far from the correct answer.  I feel bad for the person is smart enough to look into this issue before they buy if they read that.  ( I was not that smart person )

 

A quick FYI, an active or hybrid optical network have a fiber strand run to the side of your house were it is terminated into cat6e. That or a FTTP, fiber to the premisis, also runs a direct fiber drop to the home or business.  A passive optical network terminates at COs into copper line.

 

Since two of your reps both specifically (phone & "live chat") told me my current router I just bought does *not* support fiber. Maybe you guys should share notes. 

 

Simply put. My FTTH connection is a hybrid network, a combination of an active and passive optical network.   The way your router is recieving the "dhcp" is only setup for the most part for a cable or dsl oriented modem.  Obviously not meant to recieve dhcp information through a neighborhood fiber ip-dslam (probably lucent tech hardware or some other flavor).  

 

So, if "all of them will" is correct, I would like to see some technical documentation to prove it. I'm sure either your R&D department either tested it and it did not work, or did not test it at all.

 

If not, can you pass it around your techs to see if anyone has had any luck making a new N series dual band of any model # has worked.

 

That is all. I just want an N series dual band that is *verified* to work with a fiber connection. 

dieboy
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-22-2012

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

You'll love fiber if you can get a router to work with it.  It makes cable and dsl seem like childs play.  

 

Can you tell me if you have read somewhere or heard from asus that that router works with fiber?  Because i'm about to return this thing tomorrow.  Dlink atleast admits only 1 of their routers works with fiber.

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sabretooth
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Registered: ‎11-11-2008

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

The Utopia web site seems vague.  Since they state they will work with some ISPs this is what I said before.  They are fiber up to your street and copper from there to your house.  Heck I had that for almost 8 years with ATT Fiber DSL.  From the street to the house was standard copper, or RJ45 cable and connector direct to my router.  So I had fiber.

 

Since they state they fiber will work with the ISP of your choice, I suspect the same connection, standard RJ45 (or cable)  from the street to you house. 

 

What services does UTOPIA provide? 

UTOPIA doesn't provide any services itself, instead opting for an "open access model." UTOPIA simply builds and maintains the infrastructure and allows private-sector service providers to use it.  This means that customers on the UTOPIA network have a choice among multiple service providers competing for their business.  Today, UTOPIA has more than a dozen service providers who offer no less than 10Mbps symmetrical connections and can offer as much bandwidth as you need.  UTOPIA's service providers offer Internet, voice, video and other services. 

 

So I doubt a direct Fiber connection (I could be wrong) is going to be provided mainly because you don't need it.  That's why the will most likely run a standard Cable or DSL connection from the street to your house.  So, any router will work.  

 

I would call and ask them explicitly how the connection inside the house is made.

 

 

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Expert
Posts: 12,649
Registered: ‎07-16-2006

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

All ethernet routers are compatible with FTTH or whatever you use. You just need an ONU that converts the fiber signals into ethernet. You should get an ONU from your ISP during installation. (Otherwise you couldn't even use the fiber directly in your computer as your computer probably doesn't have a fiber port...)

Thus, you won't find a list of routers verified to work on fiber connections. As long as you are able to connect a computer to your fiber internet directly any ethernet router will work as well, because either one uses the same ethernet for connection...
somms
Posts: 129
Registered: ‎03-20-2008

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?


sabretooth wrote:

The Utopia web site seems vague.  Since they state they will work with some ISPs this is what I said before.  They are fiber up to your street and copper from there to your house.  Heck I had that for almost 8 years with ATT Fiber DSL.  From the street to the house was standard copper, or RJ45 cable and connector direct to my router.  So I had fiber.

 

Since they state they fiber will work with the ISP of your choice, I suspect the same connection, standard RJ45 (or cable)  from the street to you house. 

 

What services does UTOPIA provide? 

UTOPIA doesn't provide any services itself, instead opting for an "open access model." UTOPIA simply builds and maintains the infrastructure and allows private-sector service providers to use it.  This means that customers on the UTOPIA network have a choice among multiple service providers competing for their business.  Today, UTOPIA has more than a dozen service providers who offer no less than 10Mbps symmetrical connections and can offer as much bandwidth as you need.  UTOPIA's service providers offer Internet, voice, video and other services. 

 

So I doubt a direct Fiber connection (I could be wrong) is going to be provided mainly because you don't need it.  That's why the will most likely run a standard Cable or DSL connection from the street to your house.  So, any router will work.  

 

I would call and ask them explicitly how the connection inside the house is made.

 

 



What is the significance of a dedicated service?

UTOPIA connects each home and business with its own dedicated fiber-optic strand.  Unlike other networks, that split total capacity among neighbors, your UTOPIA connection isn't shared with anyone else.

 

I have confirmed that it is strictly fiber-to-the-premise into the fiber modem and there is no copper involved!:smileywink:



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dieboy
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎04-22-2012

Re: Wireless N router that works with fiber optic internet?

I have Onvoy fiber service through a local phone co. So basically the same setup at utopia I would imagine.

 

Honestly, i'm about to make a video documentry of this router and my line.  I've explained it a billion times and now i'm just getting a 'it just should work' answers.  

 

In theory your answer should work, I agree. It isn't working is the problem, and I have no evidence that other fiber users have gotten it to work. Infact yesterday afternoon I spoke with three of my neighbors, all of which who use the local inet company also instead of our other option (mediacom, offering speeds 10x's slower at twice the price!), and two are still running what I am, a wrt54g router, with no problem.  Todd tried to switch to an E4xxx, he could not get it to work, though he isn't very technical, but it sounded like similar issues to mine..   

 

I can get inet through the same cat6e cable to my laptop, as the line i'm plugging into the EA2700 I got nothing. I even went to far as to wait a day.  This is the second EA2700 Unit i had now, from a different BB store, so I doubt its a bad WAN port.

 

I called my Lonsdale Phone CO for an answer about this yesterday. I spoke with them yesterday.  They said my account has 10 useable DHCP IPs, @ 25mb/s per IP.  

 

I am not using more than 10 I can guarentee that.  

 

1. Sprint Personal Cell Tower  (WRT54G in front of it)

2. Work network (work releated server & things (WRT54G in front of it)

3. IPTV (just takes one ip, needs a straight through line, so no router in front)

4. IPTV (same as above)

5. Personal network (which the EA2700 is supposed to be heading up)

 

They showed me using 4 IPs yesterday, and the EA2700 was plugged in, that was the only one that could not see, all other IPs I was using were accounted for.

 

So i dunno. I tired of troubleshooting something that should take about 10 minutes to drop into place and setup.  Its litterly been days of trouble shooting this simply because I used to like linkysys products allot. Not so much now.